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of course, top concerns always pakistan and what's going on inside that country and north korea and perhaps the number one target, if you will, for gathering intelligence about what they are up to may well be iran. the u.s. believes iran is really trying to extend its influence in both afghanistan and iraq and around the world. there will be a lot of effort over the coming years to see what iran is up to. general petraeus in charge of all of that now as director petraeus. we will see if he gives up the nickname he had for so many years since he attended west point where his cadet, fellow cadet buddies, used to call him peaches petraeus. >> where's the peaches come from? >> you know, guys at the academy, they just sort of make stuff up. i found out recently that amongst his buddies, his fellow former cadets, many of them now two, three, four-star generals themselves, that name peaches petraeus has stuck over the years. close friends, amongst others, maybe behind his back. not too much to his face. he's often called king david petraeus. >> well, good thing he is a big tough guy. >> he doesn't
of course, top concerns always pakistan and what's going on inside that country and north korea and perhaps the number one target, if you will, for gathering intelligence about what they are up to may well be iran. the u.s. believes iran is really trying to extend its influence in both afghanistan and iraq and around the world. there will be a lot of effort over the coming years to see what iran is up to. general petraeus in charge of all of that now as director petraeus. we will see if he...
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others because that is what we try to do even like for example when we went after osama bin laden and pakistan, we actually had heard that he was there may be a couple years before, but you have to fine-tune and continue to look for information that collaborates the story people are telling you, so you have a high chance that in fact that does happen there, so if you send troops in you are really going after osama bin laden or going in to get jessica lynch. >> guest: exactly. part of the information we were able to pull from the fly over in the city indicated that she was in the city so we were part of the collaborative effort that resulted in her rescue. you know, and actually i think that is i think one of the shining moments of our sergeant but the marines were spectacular and able to look at this imagery and analyze it and see things i couldn't understand how they were seeing but they did a phenomenal job in coming you know, thanks to them and they really saved so many lives on both sides really it was there who great effort that led to huge success for the marines. >> host: you and i have
others because that is what we try to do even like for example when we went after osama bin laden and pakistan, we actually had heard that he was there may be a couple years before, but you have to fine-tune and continue to look for information that collaborates the story people are telling you, so you have a high chance that in fact that does happen there, so if you send troops in you are really going after osama bin laden or going in to get jessica lynch. >> guest: exactly. part of the...
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we can stay there if three things happen, pakistan becomes a different country, karzai becomes a different man, and obama succeeds in doing nation- building in afghanistan. when i look at that, i say, "where is the ownership?" there is no town in afghanistan that our marines cannot take. is there any town in afghanistan that afghans can hold? i look for the ownership in what we hope for a decent outlook in afghanistan. >> but we do not want to get bogged down in an individual circumstances. the question still remains. i am trying to draw a parallel but not an analogy. the point still remains. we have to decide whether or not we will have a worldwide military presence in the sense of actual interference or trying to own situations, political situations, by military means. that this really affects every single thing have spoken about today. >> i agree there will be trade- offs and we will have to face up to that. there's no question. we are the tent pole that holds up the world. i am not sure how comfortable i would be in hawaii if china control the pacific. there is one thing that your ques
we can stay there if three things happen, pakistan becomes a different country, karzai becomes a different man, and obama succeeds in doing nation- building in afghanistan. when i look at that, i say, "where is the ownership?" there is no town in afghanistan that our marines cannot take. is there any town in afghanistan that afghans can hold? i look for the ownership in what we hope for a decent outlook in afghanistan. >> but we do not want to get bogged down in an individual...
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made a decision to go after western and american recruits beau we were focused on the middle east and pakistan. and became the new gold standard and we have now a generation, i call it al-qaeda 2.0. in many respects they're the new version of the digital jihadists. so when you're talking about the fact that we've historically said, well, a terrorist is probably going to be a muslim, may open the muslim east, if you don't fit the profile chances are you don't have to worry. because in the book you say that's no longer the model. >> that's right. the heart of this is actually an american citizen anwar al-awlaki, he's a digital jihad its, whether he's e-mailing or blogging or skyping, he's kind of like the facebook friend from hell. he's using the negotiate networking against us and spreading the ideology of hate. what's frightening there's a documented case of home grown terrorism every two to three weeks since january of 2009. something we didn't see a decade ago. >>. >> mike: what are the signs a parent ought to be worry about, if their child is being recruited or sought after. >> one of the t
made a decision to go after western and american recruits beau we were focused on the middle east and pakistan. and became the new gold standard and we have now a generation, i call it al-qaeda 2.0. in many respects they're the new version of the digital jihadists. so when you're talking about the fact that we've historically said, well, a terrorist is probably going to be a muslim, may open the muslim east, if you don't fit the profile chances are you don't have to worry. because in the book...
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he didn't have the right recipe when he came to home depo when he was trained in pakistan. thank godness for a t-shirt vendor and an incompetent terrorist. somebody will get it right. we need to be worried, don't we? >> i think we need to understand just because bin laden is dead, the war on terror is not over. if you need to know where it is going. read the book. the next phase is harder to fight. there are more americans in the ranks of al-qaida than a decade ago. they changed the recruitment strategy and we are successful in taking out the leadership. americans understand us and our system and know how to use it against us in a way that a foreign terrorist or bin laden never would . that's what makes them so dangerous. >> mike: the book is called the next wave. our audience will get a head start. you will get a copy of the next wave before you leave here today. catherine, thank you very much. it is a pleasure to have you here. >> officer smiley lost his eye sight in iraq but not his vision to lead and his drive to live life to the fullest. captain smiley and his wife are
he didn't have the right recipe when he came to home depo when he was trained in pakistan. thank godness for a t-shirt vendor and an incompetent terrorist. somebody will get it right. we need to be worried, don't we? >> i think we need to understand just because bin laden is dead, the war on terror is not over. if you need to know where it is going. read the book. the next phase is harder to fight. there are more americans in the ranks of al-qaida than a decade ago. they changed the...
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two are on the border of afghanistan and pakistan, which leads to a lot of uncertainty on the pakistan side of the border. >> how do we bring india in? how do we bring pakistan in? again, the united states and dr. brzezinski last week when he was here talked about all of our rivals, not enemies, but rivals are sitting there smiling, watching the united states power get drained in afghanistan. they are just standing by. >> it's absolutely right. when you think about the costs, you know, we are talking $120 billion. that's combat operations alone. that's not aid. not aid going to other countries. it does not include training. we are talking billions of dollars spent on this operation that we are seeing marginal improvements. >> $120 billion on combat alone per year. i'm sorry, i'm going to say it again, while our infrastructure is crumbling, while we fall behind k-12 in the schools and having to fire teachers, i'm sorry you can't explain this to americans in town hall meetings from california to maine down to south florida. they don't understand. >> it goes back to a great line i heart.
two are on the border of afghanistan and pakistan, which leads to a lot of uncertainty on the pakistan side of the border. >> how do we bring india in? how do we bring pakistan in? again, the united states and dr. brzezinski last week when he was here talked about all of our rivals, not enemies, but rivals are sitting there smiling, watching the united states power get drained in afghanistan. they are just standing by. >> it's absolutely right. when you think about the costs, you...